I’ve recently downloaded a new version of popular internet browser, Internet Explorer 8 beta. In a few days I’m going to test its performance against Firefox, Opera and Safari the same way I did before.
Meanwhile, I’m going to test drive IE 8.0 to see how it feels and if it could be a real competitor for Firefox or not.
So far I found kind of surprising thing: Internet Explorer 8 cannot properly display even their own (Microsoft) sites. Take a look are the screen shots below. It also has issues with www.digg.com and some others.
Damn you, web standards! Why there are no standards which are looking good in any version of IE? Now you have confused Microsoft team to the point, so they cannot focus even on testing their own web sites!
Shame on you, web standards!
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Internet Explorer 8 Beta no llegГі a mostrar correctamente un sitio de Microsoft…
La imagen muestra que ni los propios testers de microsoft probaron la mismisima p{agina de MicrosoftMarketPlace…
Internet Explorer 8 Beta no llegГі a mostrar correctamente un sitio de Microsoft…
La imagen muestra que ni los propios testers de microsoft probaron la mismisima p{agina de MicrosoftMarketPlace…
And this surprises you? Microsoft laughs in the face of standards organizations, opting only to create their own nonsense standards. MSIE will never be a viable browser until Microsoft is FORCED to comply with existing standards, which is unlikely to ever happen.
hahahaha …. the guys at microsoft never get it right
It’s only in beta. It’s not supposed to be a browser that you can surf the web in, but rather a browser for developers to test out how it displays their website, which it seems microsoft still has a lot of work to do
IE just sucks.
you find that in any web browser, some elements in websites change resize with the font size and that other elements don’t, this can really mess them up like this.
i find it looks most disgusting in myspace.com, or any good site that use javascript elements.
i think firefox is the best web browser, not because its that much faster, the speed difference is mostly neligible anyway, but the addons are that of legend!
adblock plus with element hider, tab mix plus, stuumble upon, cooliris, upity, down them all and of course customize google! try them out
lol, its called BETA for a reason… omg.
Haha, thatz just weak of microsoft, but then again it’s only beta.
Man, that’s just hilarious. Anyone who’s done web development knows what a POS IE is already. I’m curious, are they moving further away from the standards with IE8, or are they moving closer? Are we going to have to come up with another generation of IE hacks to get the stupid program to behave?
Keep in mind this is a beta version. I assume they’ve implemented only a small portion of the rendering engine and even less backwards compatability. E.g., sites completely ignoring web standards won’t render correctly. I’m a bit worried they change their tune again, though, and decide to scrap the web standards approach… that’d drive many web designers into despair (again).
Anyway, let’s hope the IE team really pulls this off… it’d be hugely helpful to the web design community.
Haha… wow. Sides are hurting XD
This cracked me up.
M$ you’ve just pushed yourself further into the deep shit.
now thats priceless :))
It’s because a lot of sites have hack for internet explorer, which are activating in IE 8. However, as IE 8 works differently to IE 7, the pages wont display properly.
It is beta software… It will not work properly… that means bugs are still to be fixed..
Meh, why bother… Ubuntu all the way… why waste my time upgrading all the programs I install in Windows , one by one when in Ubvuntu I can do it with one click? I upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10 from within the Operating System. How cool is that?
Firefox and Opera are not competitors for IE… IE cannot compete with itself..
LOL, This is priceless.
I know about websites not being rendered as it should be but microsoft’s own site… lol :p (Stumbled, of course)
Here we go again….
another pile of doodoo from MS.
Maybe the web developers used the usual tricks to make the site render correctly in IE 7. This breaks the “more-standard-compliant” IE8.
That is why they proposed the totally ridiculous X-UA-Compatible Header/Metatag (both have been proposed)
I personally just shit on IE when creating websites. I don’t even bother to take a look how its rendered there. But alas, we have a good hotline explaining to complaining visitors/customers that Valid-(X)HTML is valid (X)HTML and that they should complain to the vendor of their browser. (or get another one)
hi. i’m also having problems with lot’s off websites.. i already unistalled IE8
Go OPEN SOURCE.
LOL funny post ! stumbled upon it
microsoft has a long way to go when it comes to browsing & web standards
This is probably because their website is using loose.dtd
I dont have a reason for digg.com
Also their web team is probably not on the same level with their IE development team.
Web designers most of the time just get into the “well shape it so that it works” because thats all their boss cares about… I’m sure when IE8 is released their site will render quite fine with it.
Iono.. my 2cents
Ha haa ha That’s golden
Ha-ha! Macrosux shoots their own foot again.
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this is so web 3.0
rofl…
classic microsoft quality…
It’s a beta. What do you expect? Surely a piece of beta software not performing to spec is not news.
Keep us posted with your findings about IE8 Beta2, RC and RTM will you?
Just reinforces the fact that IE was Bill Gates’s shit directly coded into a web browser.
IE8 has too many flaws. I was not able to play a video from CNN News. It kept freezing up and I had to do a cntl alt delete.
Please tell me that was a tongue in cheek comment about standards not looking good in IE.
It seems only fitting that Microsoft’s programmers wouldn’t be able to follow a standard. Look at the messes that are the MS Office file formats.
It’s okay though, it turns out the programmers at Opera and those beatnik hippie freaks (tongue firmly planted in cheek there, guys) working for the Mozilla Foundation are capable of turning out browsers that can follow the standards. No Microsoft necessary.
self-owned.
Wow, a beta that doesn’t work properly. Well done for noticing this!
What will your next post be?
“Unfinished Road to Road Building Business STILL BUMPY!!!”
It’s in Beta, what do you expect?
It’s funny you post this. I posted an article like yesterday predicting that IE 8 will still suck as much as IE 7 and previous releases, this further backs up my post wouldn’t you think?
- Dwayne Charrington.
http://www.dwaynecharrington.com
They are probably using web standards finally!
Oh dear, more trouble for us web developers
And Microsoft just owned themselves. again.
It has a problem with live mail for me as well, and for any website that I design in Visual Studios using master pages
That’s exactly the reason I switched to Firefox. Loads of pages weren’t loading properly with IE as it was, but I drew the line when I wanted to look at stuff for the vista sidebar and microsoft’s gallery didn’t load on IE yet perfectly on Firefox.
I don’t usually care about this browser business - it has to be said that I am happier with Firefox now…
Good old microsoft!
ROTFLOLcopter!
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I wonder why does the World get a clue and switch to MICROSOFT STANDARD S for Bill’s sake!
but seriously…. in some sense, I wish IE8 get rid of all IE hacks…
Why bother with IE?
FIREFOX rulez!
Just wondering if you could add a screenshot of how the site is supposed to look–I can’t see the problem. Thanks!
Seriously? It’s a Beta, the first one that. Give it a rest.
First post!
And wow, IE is just getting worse and worse…I’m gonna stick with my open source browers ;]
I have IE 8 Also and I hate it, like your experience mine won’t display websites either (like myspace.com) so i dumped it and used firefox.
very sad…
It also doesn’t support windows update
Dude, you’re using BETA software, and then making a blog post blasting it. Its BETA you dipshit, did you expect 100% perfect results on every page?
IE8 Beta, is a BETA version.
What do you expect?
Which web standards don’t “look good” in IE8? Remember, this is a *beta* product - there are clearly some kinds that need to be worked out of the rendering engine. As far as web standards go, I assume you’re aware that it passes the Acid2 test (http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/19/internet-explorer-8-and-acid2-a-milestone.aspx)? I’m usually loathe to support a Microsoft product, but this one actually looks decent. More than decent - it looks *good*.
Was we expecting anything less from redmond though?
And…?
Bottom line, good for them. I’m glad microsoft has finally gone ahead and started to get their act together on web standards. They’ll get it fixed, and I’m not going to cry with it not working for a few weeks.
I’d much rather a slight graphical issue, then 2 web standards… and good for microsoft growing up and stepping back.
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IE8 will be the first version of IE that’s actually standards compliant by default (though you can switch back to Microsoft’s previous non-standard behavior if you want). Because IE7 and earlier were not compliant, web developers often need to choose between making their website look correct in IE or correct in every other browser, and a lot of them pick IE. I’d bet that windowsmarketplace.com has chosen to make their site conform to Microsoft’s standards and not the web’s, and it therefore won’t display correctly in a standards compliant browser like IE8.
it is completes nonsense, IE8 works…
see it for yourlves at windowsmarketplace.com
amj2008: now it works.
When I was visiting windowsmarketplace.com with IE8 it didn’t.
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hm.. just wondering.. if you are using the vista beta os, and it crash as and when it likes, attract virus like bees to honey, would you still gracefully accept the mistakes and say its just beta only?
some mistakes are acceptable in beta version.. while some mistakes just show that the product itself skipped the entire testing stage.
kathy,
Beta version assumes that all internal testing is done as per specs. W3C specs has been out for a while (a few years?).
I checked windowsmarketplace.com and although the site seemed to look fine the validation failed at;
673 Errors, 299 warning(s)
I also noticed that the M$ pages I visited on update and ie8 all had misaligned graphic.
As a developer I have hit the problems of standards not being standard because of M$ huge stance on the IE browsers however this will be sorted soon enough with the EU case brought forward by Opera that M$ browser should be a “choice” rather than a forced option.
It’s fantastic to see that M$ is going about correcting itself to be in the standards but why doesn’t it give users a means to actually use the web while this is being all sorted. How exactly do I keep my site working with 50% of users using FF3 and the other 50% using IE. That means that I loose 50% of all my traffic no matter what and with IE8 being in Beta there’s no point in creating a new site suited for the temporary bridge between the old M$ way, the current beta problems and the standards way.
I have tried to educate my users to switch browsers to FF3, Opera, Safari even Google Chrome beta works fine which is why I disagree with everyone on here saying that “its just a beta, what do you expect” The problem is that it’s not just a beta as it is now built into the windows update and once updating you cant go back to IE7 (only emulate it which has a host of bugs)
What are we supposed to do while stuck in this limbo
I beg to the globe that everyone just use a different browser until we can actually use IE8
I also have people using my site that are still on IE6…. yeah, I know but I can’t do anything for these people as they ignore all attempts to be educated, actually, it seems to be the same people who love IE that don’t want to be educated. I was someone who never used anything but IE until I actually read a few articles and looked at making my website accessible to everyone! Now I’m a FireFox guy and I have nothing against opera, safari or chrome, all have their slight quirks but it’s nothing compared to IE quirks.
Correction : windowsmarketplace.com doesn’t look fine at all, sorry, forgot to switch to strict mode from the developer icon (top right:blue mouse icon)
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